The slot of the lead comedian in the talk show conference is full, which is what Li Dan wants to see.

Can you believe it? In a language program, "cuteness" defeated "professionalism". A program that aims to lead "Everyone is happy for 5 minutes" makes this absurd scene lacking basic criteria become the biggest joke.

author　| Hu Jinyun (cultural industryCommentator, researcher of Sanchuan Huiwen Tourism Research Institute)

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As the only competitive talk show in China, Talk Show Conference was once a source of happiness for netizens, and we often get pleasure from exaggeration, self-mockery, irony, offense and deconstruction. With the update of the program, the once well-known "everyone can talk for five minutes" has gradually evolved into "everyone can be happy for five minutes", but are we really happy?

The program has been broadcast for several times, and the score has gone down all the way, with more slots than points to watch. The lead comedian has become a "lead scolder", and many viewers have rewritten the program slogan as "Everyone can be angry for 5 minutes".

Why did this happen? This is obviously related to the criticized leading comedians, but they should not bear all the blame.

Talk Show-The Art of Offence

Talk shows can be roughly divided into two categories. One is that at least two people talk and discuss around a theme, which is called "Talk Show", such as "Everyday Up" and "Venus Show". One is "Stand-up Comedy" (stand-up comedy) with the main feature of "one person, one wheat" and the original comedy content interpreted by talk show actors. Obviously, Talk Show Conference belongs to the latter. The core of stand-up comedy lies in offense, which allows the disadvantaged groups to vomit the powerful groups in the "offense", output their views and values, and show the talk show actors’ thinking about the world that is self-centered and extends outward between laughter and scolding. Actor Scott Capurro once said, "If a performance is over and you don’t feel offended, then your money will be wasted."

But this "offense" usually points to the superior, not the inferior. The reason why this program makes people angry is precisely because the program group and the lead comedian "bounced" in the audience’s minefield, especially because the lead comedian’s improper lighting and lack of standard judgment standards caused the players to regret leaving. What they offended was the audience with basic appreciation ability, which made people feel a sense of discomfort beyond the text content.

An unsuitable lead comedian

What is a lead comedian? If you only understand it literally, it’s probably someone who can get ahead of the joke and lead everyone to laugh. In fact, on the one hand, they are "in power" and have the right to vote; On the other hand, they need to be "leading", and they need to be able to look at the texts and performances of talk show actors at a higher level, be responsible for every vote they cast, and give the audience a convincing reason. Ideally, the lead comedian can interact with this program in an interesting way, creating jokes besides the actor’s interpretation."Leading" and "laughing" need a smooth connection, which is the role that the leading comedian should play.

Who was the lead comedian in the controversial first round of competition? Li Birthday, Zhang Wei, Na Ying, the comedian on the run, and Zhou Xun, the fairy girl, are unworthy of the world. The first two are recognized as funny and quick-witted, while the latter two also have masterpieces "MD, the person who hates X most" and "Many people" respectively. This lineup seems to match the comedy atmosphere of the program very well, but it is not.

In the first round of breakout of Talk Show Conference, the player who won four lights can be promoted directly, while the player who won two lights or three lights needs to be challenged and decided to stay or not. In the event that the lead comedian gives a flat ticket, the audience will vote for it. After being eliminated, the number of resurrected people is also designated by four leading comedians. In other words, the lead comedian almost holds the power of life and death. In this situation, the lead comedian’s actions are infinitely magnified, and if he is not careful, he will become the target of public criticism.

Indeed, Zhou Xun and Na Ying, two new comedians, took most of the artillery fire on the show. At the height of the artillery fire, bilibili UP owner Lahong dropped the talk show OG (the elder) Deer PK. Zhou Xun laughed his head off while listening to the deer’s jokes, but he just didn’t shoot the lights, and later said that he forgot to shoot the lights.

So the deer needs to accept the challenge. Because Lahong stood up in the previous challenges, Na Ying offered her "quick temper" offensive, so that the deer must PK with Lahong. Lahong, on the other hand, connected her life as a landlord with "BBQ", "Grandma" and "Really Thanks". There were many physical movements during the performance, and she won four lights. After she finished speaking, the leading comedians lamented her cuteness. However, is cuteness the criterion for judging the quality of talk shows? This is obviously not convincing enough.

As leading comedians, they should be familiar with the rules of the game and know what consequences her lighting will bring. After learning that they can’t fill the lamp, they still pay for "cuteness" without hesitation, which makes people angry. Just like Na Ying said, "I don’t understand, I just think that my little sister’s unreasonable playing and grounding gas are easy to attract everyone’s love", which is not contrary to her disclosure at the beginning of the program that her lighting standards are "true, straightforward and professional", but the real weight is more important than the professional.

Maybe Xiao Guo wants to create a sign of "punching the master to death".However, the "unreliable" lead comedian makes the player’s promotion extremely dependent on his own preferences, which makes the balance of the game biased from the beginning.People can’t help but doubt the credibility of this game and the gold content of the promotion quota, as if fooling the audience as a "fool". In the first season of Talk Show Conference, the slogan "Humor should be meaningful regardless of seniority" was used, but now it seems that it is drifting away.

As the leading comedians, Na Ying and Zhou Xun showed the same problem as many people’s reasons for leaving their jobs: individuals and positions did not match.

A reincarnation swims in the "good voice", and what can touch her is the homeliness of "courageously chasing her husband" and "watching the old man". When she is excited, she even takes photos of Zhang Wei’s lights together.

The other seems to be out of the state forever. What should be taken is not taken. Most of the time, it is in a state of "smiling and sighing silently, thinking that it is wonderful". Some stalks even need to be explained again by others to understand, even if Li Dan throws a stalk at her, it is difficult for her to continue. As for the comments of the leading comedians, we can’t expect them to further sublimate their works. After the actors tell their own hardships in life, it is difficult to get empathy for buying a house, going to school, sending takeout food, gender discrimination, etc., and only get a sentence "I hope you will come again next year", as if asking "Why not eat minced meat"? In the resurrection stage, they did resurrect those deplorable actors, but if we vote carefully from the beginning, we can also have some other excellent actors in Hui Ze. In the final analysis, they have caused unequal results to some extent.

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As Huang Xi, a big talk show coffee, said, talk shows are the best works created by each actor and naturally deserve to be taken seriously. Undeniably, the lead comedian certainly has the power of smile happily to shoot whenever he wants, but this power is naturally restricted. When exercising power, he needs to have the awe of the power of his opponent and respect for every actor and audience, so he is essentially "dancing in chains".

We are angry with the comedian because what we want to see is sparks, sincerity and respect.Between laughing and cursing, I hope someone will be our "Internet substitute" and "reaction substitute" with the same frequency as us ordinary people. I hope they will have a chemical reaction with the program, fill the gap between laughing and not laughing, and give convincing reasons for the players to stay or not, instead of just a "mascot" who will giggle. True temperament and slow fever are by no means mistakes, but putting them in an inappropriate position is a disaster.

However, Na Ying and Zhou Xun, though not qualified comedians, contributed an indispensable degree of topic. In this regard, we can understand why they can sit in this position.

Show and variety show

Is it true that "Talk Show Conference" won’t choose a lead comedian? Actually, it is not.

"Li Birthday Talk Show Handbook" once explained the difference between a show and a variety show: "The difference between a show and a variety show is that their production process curves are different."

"Xiu’s production process is a downward curve. The effect of a show looks the most beautiful in the text, at the highest point; When going to a performance, especially when guests come to perform, 80% of the effect will be damaged; Then broadcast, even the performance of talk show actors is doomed to screen failure and the effect is discounted. "

"The production process of the program is an upward curve. Often people in it don’t know what the broadcast will be like, and they are at a low point when they start recording. With the huge amount of shooting, oppressive design, extreme competition and the process of opening up, the curve began to rise and look good.Unexpected ending, human nature, plus later help, the program will reach a high point. "

For talk shows and variety shows, they know how to operate. Talk show is a show, but "Talk Show Conference" is a variety show, so it has another purpose to examine the lead comedian from the perspective of the program.

In the fifth season, "Talk Show Conference" is facing the problems that all generations have, that is, the popularity is declining and the audience growth is weak. In order to further break the circle, in addition to the content of talk show actors, the lead comedian is also very important. Zhou Xun and Na Ying are well-known people in their respective professional fields. On the one hand, they have a wide audience and are well-known among the older audience. On the other hand, they can be regarded as people with stems but opposite personalities, which can bring more attention to the program. In fact, they did bring controversy to the program. If there is controversy, there will be heat and reflection, so in this sense, they can’t be said to be a complete failure.

In addition, the scolding of the program can’t make the two unprofessional comedians take full responsibility. If Na Ying and Zhou Xun are not professionals, and Zhang Wei has always been wanton despite his understanding of comedy, then Li Dan, as a professional, can completely control his Yi Deng and promote relative fairness in the scene, but we can still see that it is "out of control".

However, Li Birthday has long given the answer in this book. "The program comes first. In the end, as long as it is good for the program, it is right. If the program is good, everyone’s grievances and quarrels will make sense. If the program is not good, we will only die in harmony. "

Once he asked himself, how to make good use of the characteristics of the art category of talk show? How to create that out-of-control atmosphere under control? He probably has the answer by now.

Under the "out of control" caused by the program group and the "English News Group", the program earned enough traffic and gimmicks, and people’s anger towards the lead comedian reached an extreme. Many netizens even shouted when Luo Yonghao owed 200 million yuan to continue to serve as the lead comedian. So, what are we expecting?

What kind of variety guests are we looking forward to?

Against the backdrop of the two "Wolong Feng Chu", netizens have been thinking of Luo Yonghao, Yang Tianzhen, Yuqi Zhang, Yu Qian, Silence Wang and other former comedians. Some of them carry out the "overall situation" and are cautious about every choice; Some are responsible for exporting golden sentences and making comments from their own experiences and unique perspectives; Some are responsible for creating hot spots and creating an atmosphere. In short, make the whole venue look funny and reasonable.

Talk shows need both performance and discourse interaction. Yang Tianzhen gave sharp advice to Liang Haiyuan’s career development by virtue of his experience as a broker. Luo Yonghao could point out that "Xu Zhisheng relied too much on his appearance advantage" when he used his appearance jokes to make people laugh.Rational analysis, emotional expression and sincere interaction are the important reasons why they are missed. Both "collar" and "smile" can be meaningful, which makes people laugh and also causes thinking.

Li Dan also reflected on the competition system. In the second round, the competition system changed. The leading comedian patted the lights and the audience voted together to decide the promotion list. The leading comedian’s patting the lights was no longer decisive, but the new leading comedians Jason and YCY were obviously much better. They knew the stem, could output relatively nutritious opinions, gave proper interpretation and evaluation, and could also catch the active atmosphere of the stem. They were even once called "Internet substitute for watching talk shows".

These leading comedians are highly praised, essentially because they match the program. This is not only applicable to talk shows, but also useful for other variety shows.

Flow and adaptation

When choosing guests, the primary criteria of variety shows should be influence and topicality, that is, traffic. Variety shows are indeed content products, but they were born in the traffic era of "the wine is also afraid of the deep alley". If you want to get high ratings, you need to take advantage of the celebrity’s "traffic". The influence of celebrity guests can provide basic audience protection for the program, and also provide natural topicality for the multi-directional communication of the program. With the help of "flow", the first fire of the program was lit.

With good traffic, what needs to be considered is the fitness of guests and programs. Last season’s Quiet and Yang Lan also faced similar disputes. In "Women in the World", Yang Lan, who is intellectually elegant, showed a double standard and was "father-like" in the talk show, and Quiet, who is famous for her frankness and daring to speak in "Sister Riding the Wind and Waves", regarded her rudeness as honest and frank in the talk show. The topic and popularity of individuals and programs have gone up, but the word-of-mouth has gone down, and the guests and programs can’t achieve each other. This kind of disagreement also reflects the sequelae caused by the mismatch between people and posts.

"Water carries a boat, water capsizes it", and the blessing of variety shows to stars has always been two-sided. The program chooses guests, and the guests also need to choose programs. The two need to be reconciled and adapted. Variety shows with different tonality need different guests to add color to the show. Silent people are not suitable for programs that need insight and output, careless people are not suitable for programs that need meticulous sensitivity, and high people are not suitable for programs that need grounding gas and empathy with ordinary people. How to achieve the right match is a problem that the program group and guests need to think about together.

Sincerity and respect

It is not difficult for variety guests to be influential and topical. It involves many considerations to adapt well to the program, but whether they can be moved, show sincerity and respect is the charm of personal character.

In the first issue of the fourth season of "Talk Show Conference", Li Dan introduced Luo Yonghao in this way: "The lead comedian is a veteran talk show lover, and what makes people moved is that he is very attentive to the program". Luo Yonghao responded: "It is very important to be attentive, which is the bottom line for me to do this. Only in this way can I be worthy of this identity and the recognition of the audience". In fact, he did do his best, and contributed his first talk show, timely rectification of the overall situation, rational analysis, humor and self-mockery, which added a lot of color to the program. If people admire Luo Yonghao’s professional ability, it is worthy of respect.

We can’t ask every variety guest to be professional, but at least we need to be professional, willing to join in and try to share the same frequency, instead of acting like a "passer-by" who has nothing to do with himself.The audience is very smart, whether it is a mere formality, insincere or disrespectful can be seen at a glance, especially in programs that require intense participation, and those laziness are nowhere to hide, which is also the reason why some guests are criticized. No one wants to be perfunctory, so those guests who lack sincerity and respect are doomed to have no way to walk into the hearts of the audience and bring positive comments to the variety show.

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A program can go through several iterations, which proves its influence and audience recognition. As a variety show, Talk Show Conference 5 is full of variety effects, but it is not sincere enough.While expecting that "everyone can be happy for 5 minutes", I also hope that "every program group can be attentive to 12 points" and exchange "respect" for "respect".If one day professionalism gives way to the entertainment of variety effects, it will be an indescribable sorrow for the industry.